On Tuesday, the Environment, Climate Change and Land Reform Committee continued to take evidence from stakeholders on the Climate Change (Emissions Reduction Targets) (Scotland) Bill, hearing from one panel on the behaviour change that will be required to achieve the targets in the bill and one panel on governance. In the discussion with the first panel, Dr Rachel Howell, a lecturer in sustainable development at the University of Edinburgh, observed:
“As far as behaviours are concerned, one sector that needs to be focused on is food, because I think that one of the least-understood aspects is the link between diet and climate change. In that, again, there could be fantastic co-benefits, because that focus would mean not having to rely on a narrative that is all about climate change, which not everyone is connected to.”
She continued:
“I am always astonished to hear my students saying that it is more expensive not to eat meat. I can only think that they are substituting meat with expensive processed alternatives such as Quorn, or are using recipes that involve very expensive ingredients such as cashews and pine nuts, and that they do not realise just how plentiful and cheap pulses and so on are.”
The member for Ayr, John Scott, a farmer and a strong advocate for rural areas, was exercised by what he saw as the implication of what Dr Howell was saying—
“that rural areas would be disadvantaged for the benefit of the majority”—
and put it to her that
“You are painting a fairly grim picture of a meat-free, livestock-free landscape where we are encouraged—if not forced—to eat pulses. That is not a future that I would welcome.”
Dr Howell responded thus:
“I did not say that everybody needs to have a meat-free diet; I said that we need to reduce the amount of meat and dairy that people eat … I certainly do not feel that rural areas should be disadvantaged, but no policy can be brought in without some disadvantage to some people. We have to try to mitigate that disadvantage”.
On Wednesday, the Rural Economy and Connectivity Committee took more evidence on the Transport (Scotland) Bill, looking first at the proposals on double and pavement parking, before hearing from a panel on the proposals relating to road works. An element of controversy arose—albeit in a good-natured exchange—when the Scottish road works commissioner, Angus Carmichael, noted that Openreach had always resisted sharing information on details of works on the commissioner’s vault system, a decision that he said
“is more commercial than anything else, and Openreach is playing a game.”
The response of Elizabeth Draper of Openreach was that
“commercial concerns are not the primary driver—I have discussed that with Angus Carmichael before and I will get him to believe me at some point. The concern is risk based”.
Among the more prominent topical subjects considered in the chamber last week were Tuesday’s urgent question from Jenny Marra on the proposed closure of the Michelin tyre factory in Dundee and Thursday lunch time’s short but moving debate on a motion of remembrance, in which all the party leaders spoke.

